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(en) Spaine, Regeneration: Interview with O.S.L. Brazilian culture, history and struggles. Part 2. (ca, de, it, pt, tr)[machine translation]

Date Tue, 5 Nov 2024 07:46:20 +0200


Interview with the Libertarian Socialist Organization (OSL) of Brazil by Embat, Organització Llibertària de Catalunya ---- "WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO BUILDING A SOCIALIST AND LIBERTARIAN ALTERNATIVE FOR BRAZIL" ---- PART 2: BRAZILIAN CULTURE, HISTORY AND STRUGGLES ---- Between the protests of 2013 and the first year of the PT's return to power, after the coup and Bolsonaro, while the CAC grew until it collapsed, how do you assess these last 10 years? What change has occurred in Brazilian politics and society?

The last 10 years have seen a great change in terms of the political and social situation in Brazil. In general terms, there have been, on the one hand, some attempts to move towards a more radicalised left, to the left of the Workers' Party (PT), and also the loss of support and increasing moderation of the PT and of PTismo (a political and social force linked to the PT). On the other hand, there has been a considerable radicalisation of the right, forming a new extreme right: Bolsonarismo (a political and social force linked to Jair Bolsonaro).

This process began with the exhaustion of the PT government years (2003-2013), characterized by class conciliation, when it became economically and socially impossible to continue what was called the "win-win game" (maintaining the benefits of those at the top and providing some improvements to those at the bottom). This exhaustion has its roots in the international economy, when the effects of the 2008 crisis spread throughout the world and the commodity boom in Brazil began to weaken. And also in the way the PT government dealt with these effects: economic policies, political articulations, press, etc.

The fact is that the period between 2013 and 2016 was marked by great popular discontent and, at the same time, by important popular mobilizations. There was a record number of strikes, a greater organization of youth, as well as street protests, occupations, etc. In many cases, this meant a more radicalized rise of the struggles, which were to the left of the PT and PT, and managed to maintain a certain independence from them.

The most important of these mobilisations took place in June 2013, when the São Paulo-based Movimento Passe Livre (MPL), with an ideologically autonomist/libertarian orientation, organised protests against the increase in bus, metro and train fares. The movement was fuelled by a growing context of struggles around transport, which were being promoted elsewhere (notably in the cities of Porto Alegre, Goiânia, Natal and Rio de Janeiro). It became widespread and nationalised, acquired great popular appeal and, in different circumstances, acquired a certain radicalism.

In different regions, these demonstrations began to be highly contested by political forces that were often opposed to each other. Certainly, there was a presence of various left-wing forces, both moderate and radical. But there was also a presence of the right, which took to the streets (something that had been rare until then) and which became progressively more radical. A certain anti-political spirit was growing, which was also disputed by the forces at play on the left and right.

This struggle ended victoriously and opened the door to a new situation in the country. On the one hand, the years 2014 and 2016 witnessed important processes of struggle, such as the demonstrations against the World Cup (2014), the occupations of high schools and universities (2015-2016), as well as countless strikes and mobilizations. But on the other hand, this was a fundamental period of stimuli for the right: the coup process against President Dilma Rousseff advanced and materialized; Operation Car Wash, through a process of lawfare, stimulated this anti-political sentiment in an anti-PT and anti-left direction; a more open and aggressively neoliberal national policy was promoted by the government of Michel Temer.

In the context of this confrontation, the right has mostly moved towards the extreme right, in a process of fascist radicalization that culminated with the election of Bolsonaro in 2018. For its part, the left has seen its most radical projects weakened and, hegemonically, has responded by moving towards the center, (re)grouping around PTism and proposing avenues of dialogue with the center and the center-right.

During the years of the Bolsonaro government (2019-2022), we went through the COVID-19 pandemic with a denialist government, which refused to buy vaccines and ended up being responsible for a considerable part of the 700,000 deaths we had in Brazil. In addition, in economic terms, this government has made great progress on liberalizing projects, which have led to an increase in poverty and a worsening of the living conditions of workers. In political terms, it has encouraged the strengthening of the presence of the military in politics and has advanced authoritarian projects, flirting with coups d'état and exceptional measures. In ideological and moral terms, with ample help from evangelical churches (mainly neo-Pentecostal), it has contributed to normalizing neo-fascist absurdities in Brazilian society.

Lula's narrow victory in 2022, the result of a broad front that united the left and the moderate right, did not change this situation much. Lula's government is currently trying unsuccessfully to return to the conciliatory formulas of the early 2000s. It is constantly cornered by the far right and the traditional right ("centrão"), which is very strong in the national legislature. In social terms, the big dispute is currently between Bolsonarism (far right) and PTism (center-left, increasingly in the center). There are no prospects of significant changes in economic, political or cultural terms.

What have you learned from all this?

In the last 10 years, speaking more specifically about Brazilian anarchism, there have been moments of ebb and flow. We have had some influence on these processes of struggle (depending on the region, greater or lesser), but we have not managed to be decisive at the national level, much less have a more significant impact on the Brazilian situation. We can point to some lessons we learned during this period.

First of all, it became clear that popular discontent and mobilization do not necessarily move to the left, and even less so in a revolutionary and libertarian sense. In other words, as history also teaches us, in the processes of radicalization of the struggle all forces are in conflict, including the extreme right. Once again, it is clear that there is no possibility of betting on spontaneity. The masses will not go out on the streets and automatically build leftist, revolutionary or libertarian projects, even if they are encouraged to do so by collectives with these positions.

Secondly, the radical and revolutionary left (understanding anarchism as part of it here) needs to have real conditions not only to stimulate popular mobilizations and revolts, but to give them a precise direction. These struggles need to be built daily, and the production of a libertarian political culture seems to be fundamental to this. As far as anarchism is concerned, what has happened in Brazil also reinforces our opinion that for this construction and direction to take place in a libertarian sense, and for the movements and mobilizations that constantly arise to be able to point towards a socialist and libertarian project of transformation, there is no way to renounce political organization.

For us, this means a coherent and united anarchist party/organization, capable of effectively influencing reality and of concretely contesting the direction of struggles, mobilizations and situations of this kind. An anarchist political organization that is capable of enduring over time, recording and discussing its achievements, and incorporating them into a coherent and influential political practice. We believe that it is this organization that can provide the necessary responses, not only to these types of situations, but also to advance towards structural transformations of society. It is the anarchist party/organization - to the extent that it has an influential presence in the most dynamic sectors of the oppressed classes, as well as an adequate strategic-tactical program and line - that has the conditions to stimulate and contribute to the construction of a project of self-managed popular power.

Third, the risks of the Brazilian left remaining restricted to the limits of PTism have become clear. For decades, the PT has had a broad hegemony on the left in our country, both politically and socially. When we look at the historical trajectory of the party, we see a progressive movement towards bureaucratization, away from the bases and towards the center. The PT emerged in 1980 with a leftist position, linked above all to classical social democracy, although it had more radicalized sectors and a considerable popular mass base (unions, social movements, etc.). What occurred throughout the 1980s and 1990s, and which became more pronounced in the 2000s, was a split of the most leftist sectors and a growing movement towards the center. This process involved not only the distancing from the bases, but an active effort to undermine the old and new initiatives of articulation and mobilization of these bases in favor of a project of bureaucratic and centralized power.

Fourthly, the need to work on building a new radical left, to the left of PTism, and, as part of it, to challenge its leadership in a libertarian sense. 2013 showed widespread dissatisfaction among the population with the situation in Brazil. Note that it was the extreme right that gave an "anti-system" response, "against everything that exists" (a phrase often uttered by Bolsonaro), mobilizing the fascist notion of "revolution by order." In our opinion, there was (and still is) room for a radical left to respond to this widespread discontent. And it does not seem reasonable to us to combat the neo-fascist extreme right with moderation and class conciliation.

Fifthly, in this process we have seen progress in the debate on race, ethnicity, gender and sexuality, and we consider this very positive. However, we have also observed that, along with this process, there has been an enormous growth of postmodern and identity-based influence in Brazil, both on the right and on the left, something that we find deeply problematic.

On the left (and even in anarchism), this postmodern identitarianism - heavily influenced by liberalism in the US and Europe - has promoted individualism, fragmentation and dispersion of struggles (each person/sector fights only for "their" cause); it has undermined collective debates and disconnected the important agendas mentioned (gender, sexuality, race, ethnicity, etc.) from a class basis and from a class-based and revolutionary perspective of struggle. This has led to confusion about who are allies, potential allies, adversaries and enemies; to treating those who are different as enemies; and to treating difference in an authoritarian way.

Let us be clear about our position on this fifth point. Nationality, gender-sexuality, race-ethnicity are very important issues. What we criticize is the postmodern and liberal influence in their treatment, which we believe is necessary to combat by reinforcing a socialist, libertarian, classist, internationalist and revolutionary perspective. Furthermore, reality cannot be understood in a completely subjective way (such as the notion that there is no material and objective reality, but only different points of view, experiences and narratives). And identities cannot be separated from the material reality (structural, conjunctural, etc.) in which they are produced.

In Europe, attention is drawn to the rise of evangelical churches in Brazil, which silence the popular classes and drag them towards deeply reactionary positions. How does a revolutionary organization deal with this situation?

Recent research has shown that 17 evangelical churches are opened every day in Brazil. There are already more churches in the country than hospitals and schools combined. These churches have been occupying spaces in areas where the State only reaches out with repression, and also spaces that, decades ago, had the presence of the left and popular movements. Today, any political force that works in the outskirts of large cities has to deal with evangelical churches, as in the case of our community activism.

Evangelical left-wing expressions such as integral mission theology, which plays a similar role to liberation theology among Catholics, have been greatly weakened. Morally conservative and economically liberal positions are increasingly common among this public.

On moral and ethical issues, evangelicals tend to be conservative or even reactionary, for example, by being completely opposed to the right to abortion. On economic issues, given the so-called evangelical neo-Pentecostalism, linked to the so-called "theology of prosperity" (the fastest growing sector among evangelicals), there is a strong neoliberal indoctrination. This is because there are values that have been propagated by these churches that reinforce this worldview, such as, for example, the encouragement to become rich in life and the defense of individual entrepreneurship as a path to salvation.

However, these positions are not completely hegemonic. There are still sectors that support social assistance policies and economic agendas more closely linked to social democracy; for example, they voted for Lula in the last elections. However, with the strengthening of the extreme right in Brazil, evangelical churches have been progressively moving to the right and have constituted, although without great homogeneity, a prominent pillar of support for Bolsonaro. The PT government believed that it would be possible to attract this sector by offering benefits and political support, but it has become increasingly clear that this is not a possible way out. Sooner or later, most of this sector will have to be dealt with harshly.

Obviously, among the bishops and pastors of the large evangelical churches there are countless "merchants of faith" who take advantage of this growth to exploit the faithful, enrich themselves personally and expand their economic and political power. What is also striking about this growth of evangelicals is the role that the churches have been fulfilling, especially in peripheral urban areas: responding to certain needs that contemporary capitalism has produced and that revolve around work, hospitality, sociability, overcoming daily difficulties, etc. For example, when these evangelicals explain why they go to church, they talk about issues such as: getting a job, accessing people who listen to them, making friends, having leisure spaces (education, sport, etc.) for the family, building hope for a better tomorrow, strengthening networks of mutual support (listening, money lending, drug addiction, etc.), establishing standards of life (drinking, work, delinquency, etc.).

A social democrat might say that these are functions that should be performed by the State, and to the extent that the State only enters these regions to repress, evangelical churches have occupied that space. But looking at Brazilian history and society, there is another possible answer. There have been different moments in our history when popular movements have responded to these needs, as in the case of revolutionary syndicalism at the beginning of the 20th century or the Ecclesiastical Base Communities (CEBs), linked to liberation theology, in the 1970s and 1980s. In this last case, it is interesting to note that the aforementioned bureaucratization of the PT caused the abandoned spaces in the peripheries to be occupied by evangelical churches and other institutions.

Note how these same needs can have contradictory responses. Today, a worker who goes to an evangelical church to alleviate his daily suffering and nourish a hope for improvement will be encouraged to think that he will soon be able to become rich like the believer next to him. At the beginning of the century, a worker who sought revolutionary union initiatives to do so would be encouraged to build this subjectivity around the possibility of a social revolution and socialism. This applies to all issues.

We say this because it seems essential to us to understand why these churches are growing and to find alternatives capable of responding to these needs, but with a profoundly different content. In other words, we need to have the capacity to build a class-based political culture, through popular movements, that reconstructs the social fabric in these peripheries through solidarity, and that gives this process a class-based and transformative content. This must be a central aspect of a popular power project. This question will not be resolved simply by criticizing evangelical churches, because it is essential to respond to the needs of contemporary capitalism. This is one of the great challenges of our community project for urban peripheries.

Can you give us a historical and contemporary overview of trade unionism in Brazil? Is the movement controlled by post-Stalinist and Trotskyist currents?

To understand the Brazilian trade union movement, it is important to review the origins of trade unionism in Brazil, which began in the early 20th century. At that time, anarchists played a prominent role through revolutionary trade unionism, which guaranteed class independence and the organizational autonomy of workers.

Throughout the 1930s, under Getúlio Vargas, there was a process of linking the unions to the State. In short, what happened was the following. On the one hand, after strong pressure, the government gave in to certain historical demands of the Brazilian working class regarding labor rights (among others: minimum wage, eight-hour workday, paid vacations, weekly rest). But it publicly declared that this was an initiative of the government itself. On the other hand, it implemented a union structure (union unity, mandatory union tax and investiture), which turned the unions into state organizations that could be controlled by the State. In other words, the Vargas government greatly limited union possibilities.

Other factors - such as the international Stalinist line of the Communist Party, which promoted a reformist unionism based on class conciliation - contributed to establishing a consensus in the country that the union, in organizational terms, was a structure tied to the State and only served to deal with economic agendas, through negotiation aimed at conciliation between capital and labor. This union structure, inherited from the 1930s, continues to largely guide the way unions are organized even today in Brazil.

Broadly speaking, there are currently two major sectors of the labour movement in the country. One defends that the union is linked to the State and that its function is to reconcile (often even defend) the demands of employers and workers. And the other defends class independence and that the union is an instrument of the workers to expose and encourage class conflict. Obviously, within these two major sectors, there are different positions, ranging from trade unions that defend neoliberal policies to those that defend the socialist revolution.

To understand the main currents of the current trade union movement, it is essential to understand the question of trade union unity, established in the 1930s. Trade union unity establishes that each category has (and can have) only one union, authorized by the State to represent the workers of that category. It is not like in Spain, where any worker can choose the union or trade union center that represents him. In Brazil, workers are obliged to join the only union authorized to represent their category. This leads to a dispute, union by union and in each category, and only then the elected leaders approve which trade union center the union will join.

To give a practical example, a public school teacher cannot choose to join the CSP-Conlutas (which defends class independence), just as a Spanish teacher can choose to join the CGT or Solidaridad Obrera. In Brazil - if he is from São Paulo, for example - he can only join APEOESP, which is the teachers' union of the state of São Paulo. From there, that teacher can challenge the day-to-day running of the union to take on certain positions and join a union. In the case of APEOESP, the largest union in Latin America, it is affiliated with the Central Única dos Trabalhadores (CUT), which is mostly run by an internal current of the PT.

This leaves Brazilian trade unionists with only two options. One is to participate in the single unions and invest in internal disputes. The other is to invest in the creation of a parallel union structure. There have been and are some initiatives in this second direction, but they are proving to be deeply limited in terms of the number of workers involved and, above all, their capacity to make demands in the workplace. In our analysis, the option of creating a parallel union, at least at this historical moment, would distance us from the real base of the workers and would only bring together a few dozen workers with overly ideological criteria, to the extent that the unions would not have the capacity to confront the concrete reality of ordinary workers.

For example, in this context of the ebb and flow of the trade union movement, an underground worker is unlikely to join a parallel union that is unable to negotiate wages, working conditions, etc. and that does not give him political and legal support against dismissal. This is even worse when we are talking about precarious workers, whose less stable status means that, even if they want to, they have enormous difficulties in joining a parallel union. For example, a subcontracted cleaning worker, after a long working day, often marked by employer repression, if he is absent from work for an activity of this parallel union, could lose his basic food basket or a day's work, be transferred to more unhealthy places or even be fired.

Today, the camp that defends class independence (Trotskyists, some anarchist sectors, autonomist Marxists, etc.) is a very small minority. The largest Brazilian trade unions are the CUT - with a social-democratic/social-liberal line and led mainly by the PT - and the Força Sindical - controlled by sectors of the right and the employers' trade union bureaucracy. Intermediate unions are the General Union of Workers (UGT) - which defends neoliberal policies - and the Central de Trabajadores de Brasil (CTB) - controlled mainly by the Communist Party of Brazil (PcdoB), a split from the Brazilian Communist Party (PCB) and which follows the line of the Albanian CP. There are also other smaller organizations. Among them, the only trade union that defends class independence, and which is led mainly by Trotskyists, is the Central Sindical e Popular Conlutas (CSP-Conlutas). Another organisation along these lines, which is not a central organisation and has far fewer unions/members, is the Intersindical "Network" (Instrumento de Luta...).

In general, post-Stalinists have little involvement in the Brazilian trade union movement. Due to their ethical and strategic flexibility, they tend to be close to the more pragmatic categories, often joining the CUT, but with almost no social force capable of influencing the policies of the central, let alone the whole Brazilian trade union movement.

What do you think of anarcho-syndicalism and/or revolutionary syndicalism? Could an autonomous current be emerging within syndicalism?

In this complex union framework, our challenge, trying to adapt elements of revolutionary unionism, has been to build the struggles in these existing unions and fight within them. In all the unions we have been in, we have tried to convince workers that the model of unionism based on independence and class conflict is the one that leads to concrete victories, and that allows us to accumulate social strength to later break with state unionism and promote more far-reaching transformations.

We understand that it is necessary to create a real structure, with a strong base that can respond to the situation, support the affiliated workers against the bosses and dispute the hegemony with the central unions and tendencies that defend the union bureaucracy. Of course, this does not depend only on our will, it does not happen overnight, and it is only possible with a medium and long-term strategic planning, which can establish the necessary tasks step by step.

When we look at the history of anarchism, anarcho-syndicalism and revolutionary syndicalism, we find many references to what we are doing. We know that, depending on the country and region, the distinction between anarcho-syndicalism and revolutionary syndicalism varies greatly and is the subject of controversy.

For us, in terms of mass strategy, when we give preference to revolutionary syndicalism over anarcho-syndicalism it is because, for example, we understand that the revolutionary syndicalist model of the Brazilian Workers' Confederation (COB), founded in 1908 - based on the proposal of a syndicalism that encompassed all workers willing to fight, without an explicit and programmatic link to an ideology or doctrine - is more interesting than the anarcho-syndicalist model of the Argentine Regional Workers' Federation (FORA), from 1905 onwards - based on the proposal of a syndicalism ideologically and programmatically linked to anarchism. For us, anarchism must be within the union movement and not the other way around.

The revolutionary syndicalism that we defend is clear from the mass line that we explained earlier. We do not want unions or anarchist movements, but workers' unions that can have an influential reference in anarchism, based on certain practices that are capable of pointing towards social transformation along the lines that we support. However, we know that there is a long way to go before this strategy has the concrete conditions to be implemented on a large scale in Brazil. But to the extent that we believe that the means must be consistent with the ends, and lead to them, we are already seeking to build this strategic perspective in the unions where we are present.

Can you tell us a little about the situation in rural areas in Brazil?

First of all, it is important to mention the importance that the issue of land concentration has in the social formation of Brazil, both in the countryside and in the city. Currently, Brazil has 453 million hectares under private use, which corresponds to 53% of the national territory. Since the colonial period, the country's ruling classes have tried to create the conditions to maintain private ownership of this concentration of land.

In 1850, when the abolitionist movement was gaining strength and before the Slavery Abolition Act, the Land Law was established to regulate private property in the country. Among other things, this prevented the black population from owning land to live and work on, and contributed to the social exclusion of this population. In other words, part of the social inequalities, relations of domination and structural racism in Brazil are related to the historical process of land concentration in the country.

Historically, there have been various processes of revolt and mobilization in the Brazilian countryside, just as there are different rural movements today, from the most organized at the national level to smaller local groups. Throughout the country's history, the rural population has been systematically expelled to the big cities due to land concentration, land grabbing, violence and the lack of policies that guarantee that small farmers and rural workers can continue to live there. This has led to an ever-increasing concentration of the population in the big cities.

To a large extent, this historical context also explains why Brazil remains an agrarian country that exports grains, meat, minerals and other primary products. Brazil has 45% of its productive area concentrated in properties of more than 1,000 hectares, barely 0.9% of all rural properties. And a large part of Brazilian agricultural commodity production is linked to conglomerates with a vertical structure, which control the entire process, from planting to marketing. These are companies that exploit the land market both for the production of commodities and for financial speculation. Despite this, more than 70% of the food consumed by the Brazilian population is produced by family agriculture and small farmers, but they occupy the smallest amount of arable land in the country.

This model has deepened and advanced under neoliberal and far-right governments such as Temer and Bolsonaro, but it has also continued under Lula and Dilma. The agribusiness lobby in Brazil is institutionalized and strong; it operates in Congress through the Agricultural Parliamentary Front (FPA, formalized under this name in 2008). More recently, ruralists have organized themselves in the Invasão Zero (Zero Invasion) movement, a kind of paramilitary initiative that has the support of public security sectors, repressing land occupations and retaking territories from indigenous communities, mainly in the states of Pará and Bahia. Conflicts and murders in the countryside and the forest continue under Lula's government, especially in the areas of advancing agricultural frontier, in the north and northeast of the country.

In 2021, the Bolsonaro government created the Titula Brasil program, with the aim of privatizing settlements and ending Agrarian Reform policies. And also to promote the dismantling of the National Institute of Colonization and Agrarian Reform (INCRA), stimulate the increase of violence in the countryside and the destruction of the environment. Although it covers the entire country, Titula Brasil was specifically designed with the aim of accelerating the process of regularizing properties in the Legal Amazon, the main focus of the expansive land policy advocated by Bolsonaro.

In addition to stimulating the advance of the agricultural frontier, especially in the north and northeast, this policy also served the interests of the industrial livestock sector, part of Bolsonaro's base and the most backward sector of agribusiness. There is also the agribusiness sector of large mechanized and technologically advanced farms, of grain monocultures sold as agricultural commodities to be converted into livestock feed in countries like China.

On the other hand, the Lula government's Safra 2023 Plan (an incentive program for the agricultural sector) allocated only 20% of the total budget to family farming, while most of the federal funds continue to finance agribusiness and landowners, who continue to enjoy tax exemptions. The release of agrochemicals, many of them banned in Europe, also continues under the Lula government. The total number of pesticide registrations in 2023 was 555, lower than the total recorded in 2022 (652) and 2021 (562), but still at the same level as in the Temer and Bolsonaro governments.

What is the situation of the landless peasants' movement at the moment?

First of all, it is important to characterize two of the largest rural movements in Brazil, the Landless Workers' Movement (MST) and the Small Farmers' Movement (MPA). Because of their size, they end up dominating this issue in the country, so today we cannot understand the peasant movement without talking about them.

The MST was founded in 1984 and the MPA in 1996. Both form part of the so-called "popular democratic project", according to the terminology of the 1980s and 1990s. This project now mainly directs other large organisations, such as the Central Única dos Trabalhadores (CUT), in the trade union sector, and the União Nacional dos Estudantes (UNE), in the student sector. And the PT is its great political and institutional representative. In other words, it is a camp that is directly part of PTismo or has a lot of influence on it.

It is important to remember that the MST and the MPA are also members of the Latin American Coordination of Rural Organizations (CLOC) and Via Campesina, along with the Movement of People Affected by Dams (MAB), the Peasant Women's Movement (MMC), the Fishermen's and Fisherwomen's Movement (MPP), the Rural Youth Ministry (PJR), the National Coordination of Quilombola Communities (CONAQ), the Movement for Popular Mining Sovereignty (MAM), the Federation of Agronomy Students of Brazil (FEAB), the Pastoral Land Commission (CPT), the Association of Forestry Engineering Students (ABEEF) and the Indigenous Missionary Council (CIMI).

The MST's main program is Popular Agrarian Reform, based on the brutal concentration of land in Brazil. In this sense, it has developed a program that addresses both agrarian issues (democratization of access to land for those who live and work on it) and agricultural issues (conditions, techniques and ways of producing in an agroecological matrix). Currently, this involves various topics and agendas such as gender, rural education, health, LGBT issues, training, production, marketing, housing and culture, among others.

The MPA emerged in the 1990s because it realized that rural trade unionism was insufficient to meet the survival demands of small farmers at that time. It defends and supports agrarian reform, but organizes peasant families and small farmers who already have their own land. And they do so understanding that policies are needed to guarantee the permanence of these families in the countryside and that people do not have to abandon their land to try to survive in the big cities. That is, policies on housing, support for production, credit, marketing, culture, leisure, health, infrastructure and rural education, among others. The Peasant Plan is the program that systematizes the main proposals of the movement for these issues.

Speaking of the current struggle in this sector, at the beginning of the current Lula government there were occupations in more than 10 cities, led by another movement, the National Front for the Struggle for the Country and the City (FLN) in the southeast and south of the country. The FLN was founded in 2014 and one of its main figures is a former MST militant, Zé Rainha. During this period, the MST also temporarily occupied Incra, in the south of Bahia. Despite this start of the year, let us remember that the movements linked to Via Campesina and the popular democratic camp have opted for a line of retreat since the first PT government (2003 onwards), and do not aim for any significant change, especially in the new Lula government.

For example, during the first PT government (2003-2006), the MST adopted the line of not continuing with land occupations, but of qualifying the settlements that already existed. It supported the release of credit and development policies for production that would help structure transformation and marketing cooperatives in the states, such as credit, dairy, rice and milk derivatives cooperatives. While, on the one hand, the organization of economic tools is important as a way of adding value to production and generating income for settled families, training in cooperative and collective work methodologies, developing knowledge and technology, and organizing the territory, on the other hand, can generate a lot of dependence on public policies, credits and government programs. This contributes to a line of thinking that seeks to negotiate first and avoid putting pressure on the government and that, over time, builds a political culture of adaptation to the system to the detriment of a combative policy.

The truth is that little changed in agrarian reform and family farming policy during the first Lula and Dilma governments (2003-2016). And it got even worse under the Temer and Bolsonaro governments. Despite this, the movements of the popular democratic camp have been limited to occasional demonstrations and ephemeral occupations of a more political nature. This is due either to the fact that they have lost the ability to mobilize their bases, or to the fact that they have preferred to let the Bolsonaro government wear itself out, betting on a change of situation via elections rather than through social pressure from struggles and the streets.

Meanwhile, the MST and MPA have made progress in different forms of dialogue and propaganda with society. This includes gender and LGBT agendas, food donation campaigns for communities and favelas (especially during the pandemic). And beyond that: training of popular health agents, state and national agrarian reform fairs, organic rice production. Examples of this are spaces such as Armazéns do Campo (MST) and Raízes do Brasil (MPA) in the big capitals, where the agro-industrialized production of the cooperatives is sold and political and cultural activities are held. These were advances, although much of this dialogue was mainly maintained with the urban middle classes. Something that ended up giving the movement a more attractive and healthy face, and erasing the old image of peasants with their scythes in large marches and occupations.

In the 2022 presidential elections, the MST and other movements, such as the indigenous ones, also supported their own candidates for state representatives. Others, such as the oil workers, supported candidates from neighbouring sectors. This was done in an attempt to advance certain policies and agendas at the institutional level, but it ended up contributing even more to the distancing of these movements from direct action policies. While it demands a significant part of the movements' energies, it is also related to the fact that, even with a PT government and from the same political camp, the agrarian reform agenda continues to fail to advance. Just as there was no significant progress in agrarian reform and family farming policies in the first Lula and Dilma governments. There are currently about 90,000 families still camping in Brazil, waiting for progress on agrarian reform.

Our perspective is that, given the stagnation in the government's response to rural issues, land occupations and mass mobilizations at different levels will resume. Because, just as Lula's government increasingly gives in to the so-called "centrão" (the traditional right in Congress), Bolsonaro's far right also continues to mobilize. Meanwhile, a number of social rights are threatened or urgently need to be advanced. And this can only be achieved with popular pressure.

Mobilization processes to pressure the government for social agendas, as well as the processes of occupation of public bodies and occupation of land and housing, are also important tactics because of their formative character and because they help to renew militancy. Retreat is detrimental to social movements because it leads to an increasing demobilization of their bases and a lower capacity to produce social force. As a result, they have less influence in society and less reference in the field of the left, as the MST and other movements did significantly until the end of the 1990s.

Embat Organització Llibertària de Catalunya.

https://www.regeneracionlibertaria.org/2024/10/15/entrevista-a-o-s-l-cultura-historia-y-luchas-brasilenas-segunda-parte/
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